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14 Feb 2024

OKIAAI Board Minutes 2/15/24

Date:              February 15, 2024
Time:             11:00 AM
Location:       Osage Casino Hotel
Call to Order: Made by President, David VanBuskirk

Roll Call:

PresentAbsent  
PresDavid VanBuskirk
1st VPSteve Rhodes
2nd VPGina Coleman
3rd yr.Marc Sutphin
3rd yr.Mike Haley
2nd yr.Johnnie Sawyer
2nd yr.Chad Oubre
1st yr.Heather Cropper
1st yr.Matthew Meredith
TreasurerJonathan Wilk
SecretaryJesse Benne
Past Pres.Ashley Stephens (by phone)

Reading and Approval of Minutes:  A Motion was made by Ashley Stephens to forgo the reading of the previous meeting minutes, seconded by Chad Oubre, motion approved and carried.

Membership

  • Jesse stated we have received 3 payments for new memberships, without the applications. Contact was made with the website administrator, and he is unsure of what happened, and he has no record of those transactions. Jesse attempted to contact the applicants directly, but the only information available was an email address and they did not respond. The applicants were:
    • Jon Black
    • Lance Fuqua
    • Trenton Griffin
  • Dan VanBuskirk is to disable the website features until the new website is up and running.
  • Contacts were made available from the Board for the applicants, will vote at next meeting.  
  • David VanBuskirk stated the letter for missed payment has been sent to Randy Overton. He will have 30 days to submit payment.

Treasurer’s Report:   Johnathan Wilk stated the only transactions since the last meeting were a $5 service charge for the bank account and $2,500 for the website. The current balance is $20,241.43.

A Motion was made by Johnnie Sawyer to accept the treasurers report, seconded by Chad Oubre, motion approved and carried.

CFI:  Jesse Benne stated that he spoke with Jeff VanDolah about any tests proctored recently. Jeff stated that he had not received any notifications about testing in a few months.

Johnnie Sawyer has not received any communication so far.

WEBSITE:  Jesse Benne stated payment has been made for the website updates. They will advise when it is up and running.

Annual Conference

  • Steve Rhodes stated that we have more money this year, so that weighs into the decision of our location.
    • Osage Casino gave us a tour and a portfolio of costs. Price is still being negotiated.
    • The Windstar room rate for the conference is roughly $10,000.
    • Choctaw dates don’t work if we want to keep Friday, or Wednesday. Gina Coleman will investigate possibilities for next year.
    • River spirit dates don’t work at all, they are booked solid for all our dates.
    • Hard Rock tentatively offered the same amount for this year if we want to come back. Hard Rock dates October 16-18 does not work for them, but we are penciled in for October 23-25. Last year we paid roughly $9,000 including meals. Discrepancies were found in the payments made, so Steve Rhodes will get a firm price.
  • Conference dates were set for October 23-25 by the Board. Steve Rhodes would like to set a Teams meeting do discuss further the location and decide. The meeting is set for February 29, at 10:00.
  • Once the location is set, Jesse Benne will send out save the dates, and sponsor/vendor information.
  • Gina Coleman will take care of legal and claims CEU’s, Ashley Stephens will take care of CLEET CEU’s. The deadline for instructor’s PowerPoints will be July 1.
  • Class topics and instructor discussions included adding information about the 2024 edition of NFPA 921, ignitable liquids, engineers, post-flashover investigations & ATF instructors.

501(c)3: No updates.

Old Business

  • New Training committee:
    • Chad Oubre stated that November 5 & 6 Johnathan Butta will be doing a presentation on cigarettes as an ignition source. Chad Oubre is requesting the board be involved in taking money, facilitating, and advertising for this event.
    • Chad Oubre stated that OSU-OKC is now offering “Fire Investigations Academic Certificate Program” this Fall, offering 5 classes, 3 hours each, for a total of 15 college credit hours. Topics will include Math, Physics, Chemistry, Fire Dynamics, Fire Investigation techniques, Law and legal, then ultimately origin and cause report writing.
    • Chad Oubre would like to know of any requests for training from our membership.
    • Jesse Benne stated that CFI and Training pages should be added to the website to increase member perks.
  • Jonathan Wilk and Jesse Benne took Renee Southerland off the bank account. Jesse Benne still needs to transfer the post office box. Account passwords are being changed, and a process for changing them will be written down and shared with the Executive Board.

New Business:  

  • David VanBuskirk stated the Board historically will send two members to the IAAI-ITC and this year should cost about $3000 per person. Johnathan Wilk stated the monetary cap was due to the rising costs after Covid, and that we should re-evaluate every year on cost and ability to send members.
  • A motion was made via text group by David VanBuskirk to send Gina Coleman and Johnnie Sawyer to the IAAI-ITC on behalf of the OKIAAI board in the amount of $2,500 each. Motion was seconded by Steve Rhodes. 12 yes votes, 0 no votes. Motion approved and carried.  
  • David VanBuskirk would like to have his phone number removed from the letterhead. He suggested removing all phone numbers from the letterhead and website. Jesse Benne stated he would proceed with removing the discussed information.
  • Chad Oubre has been asked to speak at the AIA conference May 22-24, where all investigation techniques are discussed. He would like the board to possibly have a booth or be present to extend the reach of the Board.
  • David VanBuskirk brought an imitation Stanley cup as an example for a possible giveaway to look at.
  • Gina Coleman stated that she will be taking an out of state job through FEMA and will be gone for a few months. She will remain available via phone for board business.

Next Meeting:  The next meeting is scheduled for March 14, at 10:00. Location will be The Edmond Fire Department, 5300 E Covell rd.

Motion to adjourn was made by Chad Oubre, seconded by Heather Cropper, motion approved and carried.

04 Jan 2024

OKIAAI Board Minutes 1/4/24

Date:              January 4, 2024
Time:             11:34 AM
Location:       Mariachi’s Restaurant – Stillwater, OK
Call to Order: Made by President, David VanBuskirk

Roll Call:

PresentAbsent  
PresDavid VanBuskirk
1st VPSteve Rhodes
2nd VPGina Coleman
3rd yr.Marc Sutphin
3rd yr.VACANT
2nd yr.Johnnie Sawyer
2nd yr.Chad Oubre
1st yr.Heather Cropper
1st yr.Matthew Meredith
TreasurerJonathan Wilk
SecretaryJesse Benne
Past Pres.Ashley Stephens (by phone)

Reading and Approval of Minutes:  A Motion was made by Chad Oubre to forgo the reading of the previous meeting minutes. Seconded by Gina Coleman. Motion approved and carried.

Membership

  • We currently have 147 members for this year. Two new membership payments came in from John Black & Lance Fuqua, awaiting their applications to be submitted for approval.
  • The international update form was passed around to update the board member’s information for our letterhead and international correspondence.

Treasurer’s Report:   Johnathan Wilk stated the current balance is $23,740.89. This time last year was $11,300, so we are ahead from last year. Since his last email there was a $13 financial services fee, potentially from a bounced check.

Steve Rhodes made a motion to accept the Treasure’s Report seconded by Gina Coleman. Motion approved and carried.

CFI:  No new CFI’s. Chad Oubre is working with OKC fire investigation unit to help increase the knowledge of the process to get their personnel certified within 5 years. David VanBuskirk advised Stillwater FIU is requiring the FIT designation. They are having issues with the international getting applications processed. David has a contact with our representative if we need to reach out in the future.

WEBSITE:  David VanBuskirk stated that Dan VanBuskirk, our current website contractor, is taking a new job and will be unable to provide services. James Bullis, his partner, will be willing to make the updates for the same price. We have a current scope of work in the amount of $2,500.

Jesse Benne stated the changes proposed were necessary due to the age of the website. It is no longer being updated and will eventually crash. The estimate was around the same cost as the initial website building. The annual maintenance fee will be the same for around $1,000.

Steve Rhodes made a motion for the update of the website in the amount of $2,500. Chad Oubre seconded, motion approved and carried.

Annual Conference

  • David VanBuskirk stated that the certification credits have been posted for CLEET and the Bar association, any issues would be with the individual.
  • David VanBuskirk stated that Randy Overton’s check has come back with insufficient funds. Renee Southerland spoke with Bill Cathcart about how to proceed with termination of membership. Under Section 7 the board has the right to termination and has provided us the process for doing so. David VanBuskirk will proceed with the process.
  • David VanBuskirk stated he spoke with Curtis Ozment about the possibility that the Windstar Casino is interested in hosting us for this year.
  • Steve Rhodes stated that he went through the 39 evaluations from the last conference and most of the feedback was in the great column. Longer lunches were mentioned and standardized break times would be preferred. A few negative comments about audio quality and hospitality being too loud. Johnathan Wilk mentioned the amount paid for the hospitality worked out great, enough to entertain, but didn’t cost too much.
  • Steve Rhodes stated the preferred location was still at a casino per the evaluations. Casinos were mentioned all over the state. Gina Coleman has been looking into venues to assist, and Windstar would be able to accommodate 150 rooms, Durant was looked into, but the conference room wasn’t great, and they may not have enough rooms.
  • The dates of the conference are going to be submitted for the 3rd week of October 16,17,18. Steve Rhodes will look into possible venues and get back to the board with proposals.
  • Gina Coleman stated we should have all our presentations submitted for CEU’s by no later than August. The sooner the better.

501(c)3: Jesse Benne contacted Chris Woodall about an update. There is no further information we are waiting to hear back on our application from the IRS.

Old Business:  No old business

New Business:  

  • Vacant position for 3rd year board member
    • Mike Haley from Muskogee nominated by Ashley Stephens
    • Renee Southerland nominated by David VanBuskirk
    • Tim Reeves self-nominated by email to several board members
  • David VanBuskirk opened for a vote for the open position. The first vote was for Mike Hayley, 7 of 8 approved, no reason for further voting Mike is approved for the 3rd year board position.
  • Chad Oubre is currently on the training committee (regional seminar committee) and is asking for other committees to assist the board.
    • Johnnie Sawyer volunteered for the CFI committee.
    • Both committees will reach out with further communication to the members to request assistance.
  • Renee Southerland is in the current accounts for the PO box and bank account.
    • Johnathan Wilk made a motion to remove Renee from the bank account and replace with Jesse Benne. Seconded by Chad Oubre, motion approved and carried.
    • Jesse Benne will work to update all organizational accounts with current information and passwords.

Next Meeting:  The next meeting is scheduled for February 15, location TBD based on a potential site visit of venue. Steve Rhodes will advise by February 1 on location possibilities.

27 Oct 2023

OKIAAI Annual Minutes 10/27/2023

Date: October 27, 2023 
Time: 10:59 AM
Location: Hard Rock Hotel & Casino,  

Call to Order: Made by Past President Ashley Stephens

Roll Call: Voting for new board positions occurred during the annual conference October 25-27. Nominations were collected, and no elections were necessary, as there were less nominations than positions. The nominations for open positions were filled, and the VACANT position will be appointed by the board in the next regular meeting.

Present AbsentPositionNew BoardPrevious Board
PresDavid VanBuskirk Ashley Stephens 
1st VPSteve Rhodes David VanBuskirk 
2nd VPGina Coleman Steve Rhodes 
3rd yr.Marc SutphinHeather Cropper
3rd yr.VACANTJesse Benne
2nd yr.Chad Oubre Marc Sutphin
2nd yr.Johnnie SawyerGina Coleman
1st yr.Heather CropperChad Oubre 
1st yr.Matthew MeredithJohnnie Sawyer
TreasurerJonathan Wilk Jonathan Wilk 
SecretaryJesse BenneRenee Southerland
Past Pres.Ashley Stephens Chris Woodall

Reading of previous minutes: A Motion was made by Chad Oubre to forgo the reading of the previous meeting minutes. Seconded by Johnny Hoffman. Motion approved and carried.

Report on new applications for Membership Officers Report: In 2022, total membership was 121 members. For 2023 we have 38 new members added for a total of 147 members. 

A motion was made by Matt Merideth to accept the membership report. Seconded by Gina Coleman. Motion approved and carried.

Report of committees: No Committee reports.

Business from the floor called for by the chair: No Business from the floor.

Treasure’s report: Johnathan Wilk stated after all bills paid, checking balance is $24,718.25. Last year ended with $9127.77. In addition, we raised $3,092 for the Oklahoma Burn Camp. 

Ashley Stephens made a motion to increase the amount donated to the Burn Camp to the amount of $4,000.00. Seconded by Johnny Sawyer. Motion approved and carried.

Johnathan Wilk made a motion to make a donation in the amount of $1,000.00 to the Magalassi foundation We Matter Suicide Campaign. Seconded by Mark Sutphin. Motion approved and carried.

A motion was made by Hugh Gram to accept the treasure’s report. Seconded by Steve Rhodes. Motion approved and carried.

Old Business: No old business.

New Business: No new business.

Motion to Close: A motion to close the meeting was made by Jesse Benne. Seconded by Heather Cropper. Motion approved and carried. 

Next Meeting: To be determined once new board has had a chance to communicate. 

25 May 2023

OKIAAI Board Minutes 5/25/2023

Date: May 25, 2023
Time: 11:31 a.m.
Location: Mariachi’s Restaurant – Stillwater, OK 

Call to Order

Made by President, Ashley Stephens

Roll Call

PresentAbsent
Ashley Stephens (Pres.)
David VanBuskirk (1st VP)
Steve Rhodes (2nd VP)
Chad Oubre (1st yr.)
Johnnie Sawyer (1st yr.)
Gina Coleman (2nd yr.)
Marc Sutphin (2nd yr.) 
Jesse Benne (3rd yr.)  ** by phone
Heather Cropper (3rd yr.)
Jonathan Wilk (Treasurer)
Renee Southerland (Secretary)
Chris Woodall (Past Pres.) (can call in)

Reading and Approval of Minutes

Upon reading and approval topic, Gina Coleman made a motion to forego the reading of the April minutes, seconded by Steve Rhodes, motion carried and approved.

Membership

There have been five new members.  After discussion, Jonathan Wilk made a motion to approve the membership, seconded by Marc Sutphin, motion carried and approved.

Treasurer’s Report

Jonathan Wilk advised the current balance is $11,2018.00, which includes a deduction of $48.99 for a Microsoft update.  He will transfer $1,506.75 from PayPal today.  Steve Rhodes made a motion to approve the Treasurer’s Report, seconded by Jonnie Sawyer, motion carried and approved.

CFI

No new CFI members, however, Jesse Benne has been approved to take the CFI.

Website

There is a current issue with the website in that when conference fees or membership fees are paid, the membership form is not being sent to Renee Southerland as it might go to spam or not be sent at all.  Dan VanBuskirk, our current IT person, has been receiving the membership forms and will forward them to Renee Southerland once received.  They both had a conversation on the phone about this issue and Dan VanBuskirk advised that apparently our website is no longer supported by whomever it was originally purchased from and that it needs to be rebuilt with a modern theme or platform. Dan VanBuskirk advised he could do this but a discussion would need to be had concerning how that would be done and the cost.  Jesse Benne advised that he would work with Dan VanBuskirk to update the website so that Jesse Benne could get more involved.

Annual Conference

  • Jesse Benne advised that in checking on ordering apparel it was somewhat expensive, and Heather Cropper also provided an estimate for apparel which was close to $6,000.00.  This issue will be discussed at the next meeting. 
  • David VanBuskirk advised that Mark Wenthold from NICB could possibly speak and Marc Sutphin advised he would call him Thursday afternoon. 
  • Heather Cropper advised she does have someone to speak on mental health for Friday during the conference. 
  • Jesse Benne advised that if we are going to do another “booze box” this year that we needed to get approval from the Hard Rock to do so.  
  • Gina Coleman advised she would take care of coordinating continuing education credits with the Insurance Commissioner’s office, and Ashley Stephens has always taken care of CLEET and OBA in the past.  
  • Steve Rhodes advised that Tulsa Police Department and Fire Department will do the opening ceremonies. 
  • Renee Southerland advised that Rochelle from the Burn Camp will want to speak for 10 minutes and will need to be worked into the schedule on Wednesday morning of the conference.  
  • Renee Southerland advised that Hugh Graham sent an email requesting to revise the time that he and Bill Cathcart would speak in that Hugh would go first from 8 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. on Thursday, and Bill would then speak from 10 a.m. to Noon, OSBI/ADA would be from 1:00 p.m. to 3:00 p.m., Burn Camp could speak at 3:00 p.m., and then awards and social networking would then be from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m.  
  • Jesse Benne advised he would get with the Department of Corrections and would order the three large items needed for the raffle and he will advise them these are not donations and we will be paying for them.  
  • Renee Southerland requested another vote for her to be able to purchase items for the raffle in the amount of $500.00.  Motion was made by Johnnie Sawyer to accept that amount for her to purchase items, seconded by Heather Cropper, motion carried and approved.
  • A discussion was had concerning what items would be given away to those that register for the conference and it was agreed to table that discussion until the next Board meeting.  
  • Heather Cropper advised that she could look into getting whiskey glasses with our OKIAAI logo.  Jesse Benne advised that the registration gift does need to be something with our brand on it.  
  • It was requested that everyone bring an idea to the next Board meeting for those membership giveaways and that we would also resume discussions about apparel. 
  • David VanBuskirk said he could get an estimate regarding hats with our logo and would bring that to the next meeting.  
  • Gina Coleman advised that we needed to finalize the food information at the next meeting as well. 
  • Renee Southerland advised that the vendor form and sponsor forms were sent out to the board members at the beginning of April to forward to prospects and that she will send those forms to the vendors and sponsors that we had during 2022.  Gina Coleman advised she had sent forms to a couple of those vendors already so as to not double up on our efforts.  
  • Jesse Benne advised he wanted to build a master slide deck after all of the speaker information had been received.

501(c)3

Since Chris Woodall was absent, there was no update.

Old Business

  • Heather Cropper advised she emailed MTM Recognition about challenge coins but has not yet received a response.  
  • Jesse Benne advised that the June class that originally was scheduled for us to host was cancelled due to the high cost and not enough participation.  He advised we would need to set lower-risk classes with the lower cost such as $100.00 per day or $50.00 a day and give discount if someone was a member of our organization.  

New Business

No New Business.

Next Meeting

The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday, June 22, 2023 at 11:00 a.m. at the Tulsa Fire Department located at 1760 New Block Park Drive, and lunch will be catered by Johnnie Sawyer.

At the time of the preparation of these minutes, it was realized no one made a motion to adjourn the meeting.

02 Mar 2023

OKIAAI Board Minutes 3/2/2023

Date: March 2, 2023
Time: 11:16 a.m.
Location: Mariachi Restaurant – Stillwater, OK

Call to Order

Made by President, Ashley Stephens

Roll Call

Absent: Ashley Stephens (Pres.), Steve Rhodes (2nd VP), Jonathan Wilk (Treasurer)

Present: David VanBuskirk (1st VP), Chad Oubre (1st yr.), Johnnie Sawyer (1st yr.), Gina Coleman (2nd yr.), Marc Sutphin (2nd yr.) appeared by phone, Jesse Benne (3rd yr.), Heather Cropper (3rd yr.), Renee Southerland (Secretary), Chris Woodall (Past Pres.)

Reading and Approval of Minutes

Chris Woodall made a motion to forego the reading and approval of the January minutes, seconded by Johnnie Sawyer, motion carried and approved.

Membership

Chuck French applied for membership and he was approved.

Treasurer’s Report

Jonathan Wilk provided an email stating the current balance was $11,954.39, and since the last meeting, there were service charges for $5.00 and a $15.00 charge for an additional P.O. Box key.  A motion was made by Chad Oubre to approve the Treasurer’s Report, seconded by Jesse Benne, motion carried and approved.

CFI

None.

Website

Dan VanBuskirk will get with Marc Sutphin and add 2022 conference photos to the website.

Annual Conference

  • David VanBuskirk discussed the possibility of the conference being at Sequoyah State Park. 
  • Gina Coleman advised that the Sequoyah State Park, which is east of Wagoner, is only $750.00 for the Event Center, and as for food, we would have to cook it each day or have it catered.  
  • David VanBuskirk advised he has checked with the Hard Rock and it might possibly be too expensive, but he is waiting on some additional information from the rep we used in 2019 before a final decision is made. 
  • Renee Southerland was able to do a video facetime meeting with Vicki at Gordon Cooper the night before this Board meeting and was able to “tour” those facilities in that manner.  Vicki had advised that there was a cafeteria and all meals were less than $10.00 each and that it would be okay to bring in food trucks.  It is stadium-style seating in the conference area.  The rooms are still on hold at Grand Casino for the week of October 17 – 20, but if the venue gets changed to the Hard Rock then the rooms at the Grand would have to be cancelled.  Gordon Cooper has a potential conflict with those dates but said they would make it work if we chose their facility. 
  • Marc Sutphin advised that he checked with Apache Casino in Lawton, but the rooms could not be on a block hold as they do not do that.  
  • Chad Oubre and Jesse Benne advised that we could possibly do a live burn at another point throughout the year and just focus on good speakers at this year’s conference.  
  • Chad Oubre advised that the speakers he has on stand by will be able to speak except Novak. 
  • Renee Southerland advised we need to nail down the exact dates of the conference in October so that sponsor forms and vendor forms can be prepared. 
  • Johnnie Sawyer then advised he was good friends with Tony who runs the Hard Rock and would get with him about the possibility of using their conference area for free.  He texted Tony during the meeting.
  • Jesse Benne and Gina Coleman advised that we needed to sell t-shirts or give them away to the members this year, as well as possibly backpacks.  They will check on the cost of each. 
  • Chad Camponella will do a data analysis and case study at the conference and Cusatis will do a 4-hour case study. 
  • Renee Southerland advised that Bill Cathcart wanted to speak on wildland fires and would need a 2-hour time slot if agreed upon.  Chad Oubre advised that he would want to meet with Bill Cathcart to discuss his systematic process for wildland fires and would like Hugh Graham to present at the conference as well.  Chad Oubre will schedule a meeting with Renee Southerland to talk with Bill Cathcart.  Chad Oubre advised that it might be good to have Hugh Graham, Danny Wells, and Bill Cathcart all be on the first day.
  • Johnnie Sawyer advised that the Tulsa DA has agreed to speak on arson fires.  We could possibly have him speak Friday morning and then do the mental health segment.  
  • Heather Cropper advised that she has a contact with 511 and will check with them concerning apparel and being a vendor/sponsor. 
  • Chad Oubre advised he could purchase appliances to burn and would get both speakers to mesh their presentations with these appliances.  He will get the dollar amount of the appliances and then we will submit for approval to the Board. 
  • Jesse Benne advised he would order the same three items from the Department of Corrections that we’ve given away the last couple of years and will work with Heather Cropper on giveaways. 
  • Gina Coleman also advised that she had contacted the Wisconsin IAAI and they charge $265.00 for attending the conference and they get law firms to donate money and provide all the meals.  They spend about $30,000.00 to put on their conference.  Their president, Brian Whitmore, is a CFI and can speak on technology and scenes if needed.
  • After a lengthy discussion concerning possible venues, it was agreed that Apache Casino was not a viable option nor was the Durant Casino.  The Hard Rock possibly might be out due to cost and there was additional discussion regarding the Grand Casino and Sequoyah State Park.  
  • Heather Cropper advised that the Reed Center at the Sheridan in Midwest City might be an option as well. 
  • It was decided to pend the decision about the Hard Rock until more information was obtained and then an email vote prior to the next meeting could be had.

501(c)3

Per Chris Woodall there is no update from the accountant.

Old Business

  • David VanBuskirk questioned whether Lee Aston and Judah Sheppard got paid their additional monies for the photo awards because they were not paid enough during the last conference for winning in their photo category.  It was not notated on the bank statement that checks had been written tot hem. 
  • A discussion was had concerning who would be sent to the National Conference and whether or not a set fee needed to be voted on for whom would attend.  
  • Gina Coleman made a motion to send Steve Rhodes to the conference, seconded by Jesse Benne, motion carried and approved.  
  • Heather Cropper made a motion to cover his lodging, conference fees, and daily per diem at the current government rate of $60.00 per day, seconded by Chad Oubre, motion carried and approved.  
  • Jesse Benne discussed the purchase of a conference/organization laptop and the cost would be $630.00 to do so.  We currently have the free version of Microsoft 365.  To upgrade for larger storage would be $60.00 per year with one login and $80.00 per year with four logins.  The $60.00 per year is 1 TB, and the four logins for $80.00 is 5 TB.  This would be with a discount from the City of Edmond.  Jesse Benne made a motion for the purchase of the $60.00 Microsoft 365 option and to purchase the laptop, seconded by Chris Woodall, motion carried and approved.
  • Jesse Benne discussed his contact with the National IAAI about us being an enhanced Chapter as they would take care of our membership, but National advised that our members would also have to be a member of the National IAAI and that would cost an additional $100.00 per person besides the cost of our membership fee.  That  may not be agreed upon by our members to have to be a member of both.  
  • Jesse Benne talked with Vicki Clancy who does training at the National IAAI.  She sent him documents for us to review concerning additional training and how they take care of all registrations and fees, but we would have to get the location and would need at least 30 people in attendance. A discussion was had concerning courtroom testimony and that you would need a facilitator and how to be a facilitator.  
  • Johnnie Sawyer advised that Jeff Vandolah teaches that particular class and had credentials through NFA to do so.

New Business

None.

Next Meeting

The next meeting is scheduled for Thursday, April 13, 2023, at 10:00 a.m. in anticipation of having our new conference location, but the location for lunch will be announced.  David VanBuskirk made a motion to adjourn the meeting, seconded by Jesse Benne, motion carried and approved.